John
F. Ryan IV, aka Johnny Ryan was born in Boston, November 30, 1970. As a child,
he had a Prince Valiant hairdo, orthopedic shoes, and was occasionally
chased with BB guns by neighborhood bullies. His teen years were spent
doing homework and watching "Night Flight". He studied English Literature
at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, where he had no girlfriends
to distract him from making the Dean's List every year. The disgruntled,
post-collegiate Johnny began drawing comics and sending them to his
friends, who encouraged him to go legit with his badly scrawled (yet
hilarious) artwork.
Over the next few years, he honed his craft in his self-published
title Angry Youth Comix, which was picked up by Fantagraphics
Books in 2000. There have been nine issues of AYC since, as well as
two book collections (Portajohnny and What're You Lookin'
At?!). AYC has earned multiple Ignatz, Harvey, and Eisner nominations
in the years since. Johnny was also a guest of the Festival International
des Bande Dessinee in Angouleme, France in 2002, where he presented
Will Eisner with an award during opening night festivities and had
artwork featured in the festival's accompanying gallery show. His
comics are published in Spain by La Cupula, and have been reprinted
in Brazil as well.
Johnny is also the creator of a weekly comic strip, "Blecky Yuckerella",
which appears monthly in VICE magazine and weekly Portland
Mercury (as well as online). A book collection by the same name
was published in 2005.
Johnny's unmistakable and hilarious drawings have appeared in MAD,
LA Weekly, National Geographic Kids, Hustler, Cool & Strange Music,
The Stranger, and elsewhere. His artwork appears in nearly every
issue of Nickelodeon magazine, wherein he has also collaborated
with acclaimed artist Dave Cooper under the pen name "Hector Mumbly".
The two also collaborated on a "Wonder Woman vs. Super Girl" story
for the DC Comics anthology Bizarro. He also collaborated with Peter
Bagge in both AYC and Bagge's Hate Annual, in addition to penciling
and inking two stories for his DC series Sweatshop. Johnny
has also done work for clients such as Nobleworks greetings
cards, Rhino Records, and FOX television. Johnny currently
lives in Los Angeles with his wife Jenny and their two cats, Kang
and Kodos. In September 2005, he will be featured in Rolling Stone's
annual HOT LIST issue, to the bemused delight of all who know
him.
JOHNNY RYAN INTERVIEW
Gary Cifra: Can you tell me the first time comic books or comic strips inspired you?
Johnny Ryan: Um, let's see….Mad Magazine, of course, was the biggest influence as a kid growing
up…probably a lot of the comic strips in the newspapers. I pretty much
would read anything funny in the newspaper, except for Doonesbury, which
for some reason I didn't like. Those were probably my two primary influences.
Then I moved on to Marvel superhero comics after that.
G: How much did the first comic book you ever bought cost?
J: Oh gosh, um, this was like the '70's….
G: Ok, so you weren't actually born in 1990, were you?
J: Ha, ha, no. If you go to my website and click the bio link at the
bottom of the page, you'll see I was born in 1970.
G: I was born in 1949 and my first comic book cost 10 cents.
J: In the late '70's and '80's they were around 25 or 35 cents.
G: Maybe, yeah. Was it like a strong attraction from the very beginning?
J: I would say so. I remember
as a young kid wanting to do this as a career in some form… I mean initially
when I was influence by comic strips in the paper I wanted to do that.
Then when I getting into reading superhero stuff I wanted to do that.
G: Sure….
J: I don't really know or can't explain exactly why I was
attracted to it, I just was and I don't know why.
G: I guess you were
attracted to it, like me, and thought, hey I want to express myself.
J: Yeah, when I was reading the superhero stuff, I thought, I want to
be a part of this somehow, and I was drawing superhero characters and
whatnot…but there came a point where I pretty much knew that I was never
going to be that good as a superhero comic artist. It wasn't until later
on that I sort of discovered underground things that happened that I
realized that I didn't have to be able to draw like Al ??? or Jack Kirby
to be able to express myself through comics.
G: And when did you first
start thinking that this would actually be a career? How old were you?
J: Um, probably 23 or 24, around that period of time…it wasn't until
that point that I thought that this is something that I really enjoy
doing and I should really make an effort to make it into a career.
G: Did you go to school for art?
J: Yes and no. I went to the University of Massachusetts,
at Amherst and I graduated with a degree in English.
There was a short period of time where I was a double major, I was taking
English and art and I eventually dropped the art and just took English
so I could graduate on time and not have to spend another 2 or 3 years
in school.
G: My friend recently graduate from Amherst, Jocelyn Heany.
Do you remember her?
J: No.
G: I guess it's a big school.
J: Yeah!
G: When did you start drawing comics? Did you draw comics when you were
a kid?
J: When I was a kid, I created a character who was a parody of
Sherlock Holmes, and the character's name was "I. M. Horny". At the
time, I didn't know what horny meant, I just thought it meant crazy
or something. I showed my parents "here's my comic, I. M. Horny", and
they would kind of snicker. Then later on I was doing stupid kind of
superheroes. It wasn't until after I got out of college, or probably
while I was in college, that I would write letters to friends, and instead
of writing the normal way, I would write comics to people and the way
I do comics now kind of grew out of that. I would write comics to entertain
my friends, and they would tell me, "hey these are really good, you
should do something with this, this is funny stuff".
G: Uh huh. Did
you ever submit any stuff to Mad Magazine, or do you have any interest
in the current Mad Magazine?
J: I actually have been in Mad Magazine.
G: Oh, congratulations!
J: I think it was in the July/August 2005 issue,
I did a piece called "The Fantastic Four Has A Bad Couple of Weeks".
It was a bit of a parody of the movie that came out at the time. There
was a new editor there, he contacted me and asked if I'd like to submit
some things, so that was one of the things I submitted that they liked.
That was my first Mad Magazine piece. Hopefully there will be more.
G: Do they pay well?
J: They pay pretty well, I mean for comics and
all. It's a decent paycheck.
G: Is doing comics your full-time job,
or do you have a day job?
J: At the moment it is. You know, it's kind
of a minimum wage existence. Most of my money comes more from freelance
gigs and whatnot. My comic is kind of like a business card that gets
me freelance gigs that pay money, like Mad Magazine. Nickelodeon Magazine
is probably my primary source of income.
G: The television show?
J: Nickelodeon Magazine is sort of an off-shoot of the network, it's a
magazine for kids.
G: I'll have to look for it.
J: There's a lot of
people that put together the magazine who are very knowledgeable about
the comic scene today, who know who the artists are. The editor over
there likes to incorporate a lot of the talent that are big on the comic
scene today.
G: Well, certainly he'll want to hear about Kids On Paper.
J: Yeah, he probably will. Sam Henderson has been in there.
G: I love his Sponge Bob shows!
J: Yeah….he pretty much has an ongoing thing in
there. Pat Moriarity has been in there, Peter Bagge, Steven Weissman,
Ivan Brunetti….
G: All of those artists are "alumni" of Lines On Paper,
a sequential arts appreciation society I operate.
J: Yeah, so it's all these great contemporary cartoonists that are doing work for that magazine,
so it's definitely worth a look.
G: I certainly will take a look. Kids
On Paper is trying to open up sequential arts for kids. Have you ever
heard anyone ever say "Movies? Yeah…but I've never actually seen one".
J: Uh huh…
G: That sounds insane….but there are many people out there
who have never actually read a comic book or know about sequential art.
So we're trying to open up that world to them and let them know that
they could have a career doing that. Would you, for example, trade your
minimum-wage cartoonist existence for a living as an executive at Wal-mart?
J: An executive at Wal-mart, huh? Well, probably not.
G: I thought not.
So you might want to let kids know, hey, hang in there, give it a shot….cause
Wal-mart, sheesh…
J: The reason I do it is because I enjoy doing it
and I do still hold onto the belief that it will lead to things that
are paying jobs, but yeah, I mean I do enjoy doing it, and I can't think
of many things that I would prefer doing.
G: You would hope that we
could help move this whole comics movement to the next level so that
you could make some more money!
J: Oh yeah. That's the thing, comics
aren't really that popular at the moment.
G: I think they can never
really be big money type things.
J: And I've said this before, it's
kind of a good thing and a bad thing. I know for example, with my work,
because it's underground and has a limited audience, I can get away
with a lot more. I'm under the radar, they're not really scrutinizing
what I'm doing so I can go nuts. Whereas if this was movies or radio
or tv, they would be a lot more critical.
G: Can you imagine S. Clay
Wilson in animation?
J: Oh, yeah, sure, that will never happen!
G: Well, not in your lifetime, but maybe in your children's lifetime!
J: If they could be so lucky.
G: By the way, do you have any stuff that you did
when you were under the age of 18?
J: No, but a couple of years ago,
a friend of mine, Kurt Wolfgang, put together a little comic called
"Lo-Jinks", an issue of comics done by cartoonists when they were kids
and he asked me if I wanted to participate, but I wasn't able to because
I don't have any of my comics from when I was growing up.
G: You're not alone. Many cartoonists don't have them, cause I've been asking
a lot of people. The stuff that's on the Kids On Paper website I actually
borrowed without permission from R. Crumb and S. Clay Wilson.
J: Yeah,
I know S. Clay Wilson had a huge binder of all these comics he had done
when he was a kid.
G: I used to own one.
J: I remember he was selling
them a few years ago. And they were really hilarious.
G: I'd like to do a Kids On Paper t-shirt with that one pirate thing that he did when
he was a kid. He'd be great in one of our after-school programs.
J: I wish someone would collect some of that work and compile it into a
book.
G: Well, maybe Kids On Paper will do it.
J: I don't know if you'd want to do it…some of them are like "kill a Jap"…they're sort of World
War II inspired, with that sort of racism from that era.
G: I don't know….Weirdo Magazine used to publish things like that…you know things
that were like "why'd you publish this???" and that's why they did it,
cause nobody else would. Well, this was a great interview. Is there
anything else you would tell kids?
J: I'm not sure…
G: What about, just sit down in front of a piece of paper and let'er rip.
J: Yeah, if they
enjoy doing it, and if they feel some sense of fun out of it, then more
power to them. If they find it boring and tedious, then maybe they should
play soccer!
G: Yes, just give it a shot! Thanks Johnny.